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Our counselors, therapists, and office staff power our ability to make meaningful change in others’ lives.

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Tarah Kerwin

Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist

Finalizing her education, Tarah received her Master’s Degree in Clinical Psychology from the Illinois School of Professional Psychology in 2004. She began her career in California as a Marriage and Family Therapist (MFT 47208) working in private practice specializing in couples counseling. Tarah moved to Arizona in 2010 and founded He Said She Said Couples Counseling Practice alongside her husband E.J. Kerwin. Tarah & E.J. are passionate about supporting couples in developing meaningful relationships and have developed a podcast, social media programs, and a 12-week Relationship Renovation program that has impacted hundreds of couples.


EJ Kerwin

Licensed Professional Counselor

EJ  has worked in a broad array of clinical settings. His background in western psychology, mindfulness, and eastern philosophy allows him to create a holistic approach to his client’s journey to wellness.  A large part of EJ’s clinical work focuses on helping others increase awareness around behavioral and cognitive patterns that create obstacles in their life and develop strategies to live a value integrated life. His passion is supporting individuals and couples in becoming their best selves and lessening the suffering in the world. 

Robin Memel Fox

Licensed Professional Counselor & Board-certified Dance/ Movement Therapist

With over 25 years of experience working in the field of mental health and wellness, Robin has worked with individuals, couples, families and children of all ages throughout her career in both community mental health and treatment centers. She has extensive experience and expertise in Trauma, relationships, addiction and couples/family systems. Robin’s dynamic approach includes utilizing psychodynamic, somatic psychotherapy, neuroscience, mindfulness and EMDR. She holds her MA in Somatic Psychology/Dance/Movement Therapy from Naropa University and is trained in EMDR, level II. Robin is grateful to be a part of this team and to support couples and individuals on their paths to developing new ways of relating and coping with past and current issues.


Tricia Karwas

Office Manager

Tricia is our Office Manager. She received her Bachelor of Arts in Communications and Business from The Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. She is a licensed Realtor ® in the state of Arizona. Tricia spent seven years working for large corporations managing luxury vacation rentals and apartment complexes. Tricia is a Certified Tourism Ambassador and enjoys giving recommendations for local restaurants and attractions. She is happy to say she has found her true calling in helping people in the mental health field. Her creativity, organizational skills, and enthusiastic spirit help ensure quality care at our counseling center.

Jessie Krall

Licensed Professional Counselor & Somatic Experiencing Practitioner

Jessie has worked with individuals, groups, families, and couples in both residential and outpatient settings. Her specialties include addictions, mood disorders, and trauma. Jessie believes in the connection between body, mind, spirit, and heart. She helps couples and individuals utilize mindfulness to identify body sensations, feelings, and thoughts and effectively communicate their experiences. Jessie believes that slowing down and pausing are two superpowers in a relationship and that with practice, anyone can use these superpowers. Jessie has a person-centered approach to therapy and strives to be warm, kind, and loving with a good sense of humor during sessions. Jessie is a person that believes she must “walk the walk” and not just “talk the talk” – she lives her life consciously and intentionally and also shows up to her marriage in the same way.

Brad Willison

Licensed Clinical Social Worker & professional EMDR trauma therapy

Brad has worked in outpatient and residential settings where he specialized in trauma, addictions, and mood disorders. Brad believes in adjusting his approach to fit each person he works with through effective communication, focused observation, and flexibility. Brad has been leading groups on healthy relationships throughout his career, and he enjoys helping people understand new ideas through creativity and humor. Brad has built insight through his work with gender-specific groups about the role of gender socialization on our experience as people. Brad is a calming presence, compassionate to often stigmatized groups and patients, and rapidly builds trust. Brad looks forward to helping his clients through a grounded and structured approach to finding peace, serenity, and a collective purpose in their lives together.

Gabriel Lobato

As a co-business owner with his wife of 20 years, Gabriel brings a unique perspective of marital dynamics. Early on in his relationship with his wife, he noticed the impact their past had on their relationship, which has informed how he works with couples. He grew to understand that family of origin and early relationships influence how individuals interpret and respond to moments in the present. Gabriel utilizes cognitive behavioral therapy to challenge his client’s thoughts and behaviors that create obstacles in their well-being. He integrates mindfulness techniques to reduce an individual’s likelihood of being driven by negative emotions. Through the use of EJ and Tarah’s Relationship Renovation coursework, Gabriel seeks to build a renewed sense of unity, intimacy, and hope for a more meaningful future in each couple and individual he serves.


Teresa Jansen

MA in Clinical Psychology, Marriage and Family Counseling & Professional Clinical Counseling; Certified Breathwork Facilitator, Relationship Specialist

Teresa is passionate about Breathwork and allowing the body to lead individuals in the healing process. She has worked closely with individuals, families, couples, and children in the foster care system and trauma/crisis agencies. Her goal as a therapist is to provide a safe environment where individuals feel supported and encouraged. Teresa is here to help align you with your personal goals and values so that you can live an integrated and embodied life full of hope for your future.

Dr. Rose Bricker

Doctor of Behavioral Health; LISAC

In the therapy, she strives to provide a safe, supportive, and nurturing environment for clients to identify issues and change behaviors that are creating challenges in their life. She believes humor and laughter plays a large part in recovery with both addition and mental health issues. Dr. Bricker has over 25 years of experience working with addictions, co-dependency, family systems, depression, anxiety, grief and loss, relationship and adjustment issues. She has experience providing couples, individual, and group counseling. During Dr. Bricker’s career, she has worked in the community health centers in both inpatient and outpatient settings. She was the Clinical Advisor to a mental health/substance abuse clinic, small treatment center, and a sober living house. She utilizes cognitive behavioral, mindfulness, pyschoeducation, person centered, and solution-focused modalities to help clients get the results they are seeking in therapy.

Renay Burger

LAMFT, CCTP, and CPP-rostered clinician

Renay Burger, an LAMFT, CCTP, and CPP-rostered clinician, received her MS in Marriage and Family Therapy from Fuller Theological Seminary in 2018. Although the master’s degree helped clear her path into the profession, two decades of creative collaboration with her husband of 19 years has given Renay an ever-evolving personal understanding of the roles of harmony, discord, listening, and story in the cultivation of compassionate communication. Inspired by the belief that attachment experiences and the power of human connection are uniquely equipped to effect long-lasting change, she specializes in facilitating treatment in individuals, couples, families, children, and systems impacted by complex trauma. As a clinician, through creativity, authenticity, and humor, Renay’s goal is to offer clients a collaborative environment of presence, play, curiosity, and compassion wherein long-lasting change is possible and celebrated at each stage and angle of the therapeutic process.      


Audrey Darnell

Audrey’s experience in the behavioral health field includes working with children, youth, and adults from a diversity of life experiences, including individuals with substance use disorders and trauma backgrounds. She approaches the therapy process with humility and curiosity, knowing that unconditional positive regard and trust are essential to the therapeutic relationship. She utilizes cognitive, motivational interviewing, and mindfulness modalities to support individuals in increasing self-awareness and developing a different relationship with their thoughts and emotions. Audrey strives to be person-centered and compassion-focused, meeting each individual where they are at and supporting them in building compassion for themselves and others in their lives throughout their therapeutic journeys. Having grown up in a big family, I understand how our family histories impact us on our wellness journey.

Nicole Surran

Nicole began her career in behavioral health in 2014, working primarily with adults with serious mental illness, justice system involvement, and various co-occurring substance use and neurocognitive disorders. Nicole has experience working in outpatient and inpatient settings, as well as over six years in local government as a Licensed Fiduciary. She comes to Relationship Renovation in pursuit of a transition in her career; she is seeking her MS in Dance/Movement Therapy from Pratt Institute, which combines her passion for counseling and her lifelong creative practice as a dancer and artist. Nicole incorporates body, mind, and creative spirit into her definition of healing and appreciates a relational, humanistic psychotherapy perspective when working with her clients. She believes in working with her clients to create and achieve their definitions of wellness!

Janessa​ Sala

Janessa is an undergraduate honors college student going into her senior year at The University of Arizona, where she is studying to earn a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology. Janessa is organized and determined in her work, which aids in her Client Quality Care Coordinator role. She hopes to one day pursue a career as a psychologist working with children. She has gained experience with kids by teaching dance at studios across the community and the UofA LifeSTEP mentorship program. Janessa is excited to be on the Relationship Renovation team and help others in any way she can.

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